The people I know who WERE gay changed.  The bible says they can change.  All it takes is to be truly Born Again.  It has been proven by every former gay person who has become born again and never went back to that lifestyle. 

I guess Gary is having trouble coming up with topics..rehashing the same ones over and over getting the same answers and discussions.

what about Ted Strickland?

Or Ted Haggard, the Crystal Methodist?

PS If you want to know if your friend used to be a man get a close look at his/her hands. The ring finger of a man is almost always longer than his index finger. The index finger of a woman is always almost longer than her ring finger.

My ring finger and index finger are identical length. I'm apparently bisexual.

I think when you are definitive in your own sexuality it makes it easier to be tolerant of other peoples orientation. I'm so hetero that I really can't even fit the notion of being attracted to another man in my brain. I therefor find it easy to believe that a gay man is wired differently from me and is simply following his own natural attractions. I'd really hate it if I was forced by society / the church to 'change' from my orientation. So I do unto others as I would have them do to me.

I've never seen a man with a ring finger longer than middle finger

I couldn't be paid any amount of money to be attracted to men. I also couldn't care less if gay people are born that way or something in their upbringing leads them that way. I would imagine it's a little of both. But like I said, I don't care.

I like good people. If you're gay and good, great! If you're straight and good, same! If you're straight OR gay and you're an arrogant jerk, I won't like you. That's it for me.

Having said that, I sure as hell hope my kids aren't gay. I hope it just as I hope my kids are able to have children. Creating life is a gift that I want my child to have the choice to do or not. Just one of a few reasons I don't want my kid to be gay. Would I love them less? Hell no. I still have my preference.

Oh yeah, hating on people who think the act of homosexuality is immoral is intolerance just as hating on gay people is. Let's tolerate those we disagree with, shall we? It's really not that hard.

Are there some christians who mistreat gays? You bet. Are there some gays who hate christians? You bet. The key is to be tolerant. And we can't be tolerant with those we agree with. Tolerance is a trait strictly reserved for those who we disagree with. If you can't tolerate those who you disagree with, you're closeminded ;)

It's ok? Where does it end? Listen I have gay friends too, but that doesn't mean and has never meant that it is ok. Let's be straight...no pun intended.
Are wife beaters, pedifiles, sex slave traders, ok because the people can be nice? Wow, we all have a choice of what kind of life we want to live. We have a choice.
I think you have more tolerance on this topic that those that do patent infringement. Why not just let them have a choice to copy your goods.
They were born to steal, just accept them the way they are.

@ronstorer - 

Ironically, there is talk of a "clepto" gene :)

However, I'm no gay rights activist, but I think it's a bit much to compare gay people to wife beaters and everything else you just did.

It sounds like you need a little compassion vis a vis gay people. I think you'd be surprised how many gay people really struggled with being gay - and tried hard not to be. You can feel that the act of homosexuality is immoral all day long and STILL not feel like they are comparable to wife beaters and pedifiles.

You must know that there is a greater moral problem in trading humans to be raped for money than there is in two men hooking up, right?

Our world is made up of all sorts of people. We all were given our own free will by God, and we all are sinners and we all make mistakes each and everyday.

Knowone is ever born gay. That has to be the stupidest thing you have ever said Gary. This topic dosent even belong on this blog, you must be bored or something. You really like to stir things up for your own amusement dont you Gary?

I want to very clear here about acceptance and love. In regard to my dear friends that are gay I do love them dearly and accept them as my good friends.
However, that does not mean that I condone or agree with their life style. It is a huge mistake to finally go down that path and accept behaviour that is wrong and say it is right.

"Knowone is ever born gay. "

Your ignorance of homosexuality is exceeded only by your ignorance of the english language.

You christian bigot hypocrites can all go fuck yourselves. Your moronic statements about "acceptance and love" while spewing hate, oppression and discrimination are laughably transparent to anyone with half a brain.

YOUR behavior is the one that is wrong... but thankfully, so is your ideology.

And I call total and complete BULLSHIT on the "I have gay friends" canard. If your so-called gay friends read what you wrote about them they would dump you faster than Ted Haggard pretended to be straight.

There, that should get some traffic going.