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Monday, October 27, 2008

 THE TRILLION DOLLAR MELTDOWN -
- or - I explain in detail what's going on with our economy -
This book was written an eternity ago in the course of the economic meltdown.  It was finished in late 2007.  Back in late 2007;

1) Countrywide was still in business.
2) So was Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG and Bear Stearns... as well as WAMU and a lot of banks.  
3) There was still such a thing as an investment bank.

And the author showed that - even in an "orderly" deleveraging of the massive credit bubble, using very very conservative estimates, there was about a trillion dollars that was going to be wiped out.  His thesis was that it has to happen, but once it does, if it does so "transparently" (as in, honestly and without bullshit)_, then the U.S. financial system would take this one-time hit and recover because the U.S. has a reputation for safeguarding investments.  Thanks to your dumbass President Bush, and Secretary Paulson, they did a great dog and pony show that completely fooled the U.S. House and Senate, and the American people.

The U.S. has a reputation of not being a "rogue" country that is corrupt, and therefore foreign investment dollars would still find the U.S. desirable.  We have had a history of safety because of oversight and prudent management.  We had regulatory commissions that protected investors.  Until the last eight years, anyway.

Let's look at what happened since this book got written.  Paulson comes screaming to Congress and convinces it that the markets will unwind if taxpayers don't cough up 700 billion dollars in additional taxes right away.  Congress believed him because HE'S THE TREASURY SECRETARY.  It's his job to know when we are in danger, just like it was Secretary Colin Powell's job to tell us that Iraq possesses WMD's.  We trust cabinet members because they have access to information we don't have. We don't think that high-ranking Presidentially appointed cabinet members are going to lie to us!  And when a high-ranking official tells you that you have to do something or else, there is an inherent trust in that person.

Congressional members and senators don't spend the hours and hours a day reading financial news from around the world like I do, so I can't expect them to understand exactly why the $700 billion dollar rape and pillage of the middle and lower classes was voted.  I just wish I could've had half an hour to give a powerpoint presentation before they voted.  I am absolutely positive I could've convinced them that the bailout was the worst moment in U.S. history, and will most likely destroy it.

I will explain what happened to the collapse of the credit markets in as simple way as I can.   Motives and knowledge of individuals are stated as opinions, rather than fact.  First let me introduce the players:

1) Richguy1 - starts an investment fund called a "Mortgage Backed Security"
2) Richguy2 - starts a hedge fund
3) Stupidguy1 - is an investment bank

The current financial system is based in IOU's.  When you swipe a credit card at a gas station, the gas station goes on the trust that the money will wind up in the owner's bank account, and he can buy a jug of milk.  Rarely is cash even used, and cash is completely never used in complex investments.

When you bought a house, you issued an IOU called a mortgage.  This IOU was something the bank could use to take your house away if you didn't pay on time.  But here's the thing - the bank could sell "that" IOU to somebody else.  Let's say it sold your promise to pay the bank back to a person we'll call "Richguy1".  Richguy1 takes your mortgage, and a bunch of your neighbor's mortgages, and puts them in a big pot, splitting them up into five packages and offers these packages to investors in smaller investment shares.  Richguy1 creates what is called a "Mortgage Backed Security".  It's like buying stock in a company, but in this case the company is simply a company that buys mortgages from banks.  OK?  Ok.

The "good" mortgages (belonging to people with high credit ratings, and good secure jobs) are in the high package, offering low risk, but also low rates of return.  The "risky" mortgages, which consist of mortages of people with low credit scores, etc. get packaged up and sold with a description of higher risk, but promising higher returns.

The low risk packages are easily sold by the Richguy1 to big investment funds, like the people who just tanked your 401k or pension plan.  Large investors want low risk, but safe returns.  That's an easy sell.  Low-risk packages go to the big guys.

Well now who the hell is going to buy the high risk crap?  I used to think small investors would buy the high risk stuff (looking for higher returns) but that wasn't who was soaking up all of the "toxic" debt.  IT WAS THE HEDGE FUNDS.

That's right.  The hedge funds would be assembled by Richguy2.  Richguy2 would get a bunch of millionaires (in order to invest in hedge funds, you have to be a millionaire because the law prevents little guys from getting hurt in non-publicly traded companies) together and go up to Richguy1 and says, "hey Richguy1, I bet you would like to unload that lousy, high risk, subprime group of mortgages at liquidation value.  Tell you what, I'll guarantee that in five years, I'll give you 60% of the original value (liquidation value).  All I ask is that you give me a tiny deposit of 10% cash now (in exchange for the risk I'm taking), in cash.  This is what is known as a credit default swap.  If the "toxic" debt goes over 60%, the owner of the credit default swap wins.  Stupid bet, right?  Right now it would be, but in an economy where real estate was still going up - who knew if it was super smart or super stupid?

Richguy1 thinks, you know what?  Richguy2 is making me one hell of a deal.  Because I am making so much money on the top packages by selling my safe stuff to big institutional investors, I can for sure cough up 10% of the liquidation value of the bad stuff, with a promise that in five years I'll get it all back.  OK, Richguy2 - deal!  I'll pay you 10% for the insurance that this toxic debt is off my books... gone.

Now, Richguy1 benefits, because he now has less toxic debt on the books.  Richguy1 is really in business, making tons of money because he's buying up mortgages from banks, (including bad subprime mortgages) but unloading the subprimes to hedge funds who buy Credit Default swaps.

Mortgage-originating banks are happy because they have NO risk.  They unload everything to Richguy1.  Richguy1 unloads the crap toxic debt to Richguy2.  So it sounds like Richguy2 is stupid right?  He's not.  There's a third, stupid guy I haven't introduced yet.  Richguy2 is plenty smart.  Only problem is, if you do the math, Richguy2 is extremely leveraged.

Now you're wondering why Richguy2 (the owner of the hedgefund) would be so stupid as to buy crap at 60% off.  It's because he GETS CASH.  Cash upfront to get rid of the "toxic" debt, and then goes to the investment bank to lend the next 30%.

The investment bank I will now call "stupidguy".  The investment bank writes a check for 30%.  What does stupidguy get?  Well, fees, and lots of them.  But stupidguy has a worthless contract with Richguy2.  Richguy2 promises to borrow only a fixed ratio of the toxic debt.  If lots of those mortgages in the "subprime" package default, then Richguy2 has to send $$$ to Stupidguy1.  (This is called a margin call).  

As house values fall, more mortgages went into foreclosure.  As that happened, Richguy2 had to send money to stupidguy1.  Richguy2 (the hedge funds) didn't have the $$$ because he was leveraged to some ridiculous amount, like 100 to 1.  So the hedgefund goes tits up.  Stupidguy1 (the investment bank) loses its entire 30%.  That's a bummer, but what happens when this happens with every freaking single deal it does?  The investment bank goes tits up.  No more stupidguy1.  

Richguy1 made out ok.  While there's no more CDO's to create anymore, Richguy1 made a ton of money.  He got cash out of the mortgage that is now being used to foreclose on millions of hard-working "Joe Sixpacks" so they can be sent to move in with their relatives.

Stupidguy1 is gone, but now what happened to Richguy2 - the hedge funds?  Wouldn't it be nice if somebody could bail out the hedge funds?

I know!  How about one of the former CEO's of one of the stupidguy1's!  Wow, that's weird, he's now the secretary of the treasury!  He controls the taxpayer's money!  Let's get him to convince Congress and Senate (the dumbass President will do whatever, but he won't eat sweets and he won't golf until this war is over) to get the taxpayer to fork over $700 billion dollars to buy up the toxic debt!

Let me introduce Stupidguy2.  It's the taxpayer.  IT'S YOU!  You've all heard of the "$700 bailout plan to unload TOXIC DEBT".  That's you, the taxpayer - left holding the bag on the toxic debt that the hedge funds bought!!!!!  Do you see why I was so mad about the bailout plan?

That high-risk package that got bought up by Richguy2, that cost Richguy2 a lot of money, makes Richguy2 very mad, and he's connected to the President and the Treasury secretary!  Let's get "Joe Sixpack" to work in the factory to pay back the money Richguy2 lost!

So there's no way Joe Sixpack will ever be able to pay this debt off.  Bush knows this, Paulson knows this.  But the government will cash Richguy2 out now, and bankrupt the treasury someday later.  Bush and Paulson know that this will just completely bankrupt the treasury - but they don't care.  Bush will be long gone, and McCain said he WANTS TO KEEP PAULSON ON!

Now here's what's going to happen in this situation.  The asians, who own over half of all of the treasury debt are getting fucking pissed off and are getting ready to ditch the U.S. dollar as the official reserve currency.  Once this happens, the U.S. dollar will completely collapse, it will appear to Joe Sixpack as unbelievable inflation, jobs will completely go, gas will be $40/gallon.

GM, Chrysler, Ford, all history and very soon.  U.S. Treasury?  Bankrupt.  Paulson will not be Treasury secretary because Obama will win, and I really hope he's up for the challenge because there is very little he can do before running out of time.  And when does time run out?  When does the fat lady sing?  When China gives up on the USD and starts trading its currency for a "basket" of international currencies EXCLUSIVELY, like it already has started to, quietly.

China is not stupid.  It's not going to announce that it's ditching the dollar because then the dollar will collapse and China now owns more than half of the US Dollars.  It's diversifying out if it, preparing for a new world order that does not include the U.S., and once it feels like it can take the hit, it will be out of the USD.

I am staring at a black hole where I can't tell where the bottom is.  But I know on the way to the bottom will be a complete financial destruction of the U.S. - far greater than the great depression, and lasting between 45-90 years.

You know, as bad as this unending war with Iraq, the outing of Valerie Plame, the loss of Afghanistan back to the Taliban, quitting the search for Bin Laden, the Katrina disaster, the torture of prisoners at Abu Gharaib, the taking of Clinton's budget surplus and turning it into a record deficit, the collapse of the economy, the mission accomplished carrier landing, earning him the highest unfavorable rating of any US President in history, the one thing I absolutely cannot forgive Bush for was the moment recently when he stood up in front of the American people and said, "we must act now" to avert a collapse in the markets.

We acted now, and the markets are collapsing.

By the time he took the podium, nobody was listening to him anyway, but he still had the swagger to do it.  He couldn't have ended with a more terrible legacy in history, and to top it off, he pitched to the American people the biggest bailout in history to give money back to the hedge fund managers, money that they lost ripping off the American homeowner.

And the US will be completely absolutely a thing of the past.  And that is going to happen, exactly when - who knows, but it's going to happen.

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"Congressional members and senators don't spend the hours and hours a day reading financial news from around the world like I do, so I can't expect them to understand exactly why the $700 billion dollar rape and pillage of the middle and lower classes was voted. I just wish I could've had half an hour to give a powerpoint presentation before they voted. I am absolutely positive I could've convinced them that the bailout was the worst moment in U.S. history, and will most likely destroy it."

LOL. You and Ron Paul.
Posted 10/27/2008 10:15 PM by ncocon - recommend - reply

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For what I can see, the impact of hedge funds is resulting in these drastic afternoon selloffs in the stock market as their over leveraged positions in equities get sold of to pay back "richguy1" in your example.

These funds are getting liquidated to zero. The government bailouts will likely not go to those investors. They go to "richguy 1."
Posted 10/27/2008 10:31 PM by ncocon - recommend - reply

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The bottom you envision is too dramatically low.

A more like scenario IMHO is that after January 20, 2009 Paulson and his cronies start buying up the 401k's of working Americans at a steep discount.
Posted 10/27/2008 10:39 PM by ncocon - recommend - reply

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wow. too long bubba!
Posted 10/28/2008 1:14 AM by missycarl - recommend - reply

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The American people didn't vote for the bailout, Congress did. So much for a Representative Democracy. The American people will now have to wait until they can elect better representatives (if such people even exist). No wonder confidence is absent.With lack of confidence, fear sets in and we continue to wallow in misery. It also doesn't help when the leaders continue to propagate those fears. It will be interesting and sad to see how much more damage Bush can create in the last few months of his term. I'm hoping that the next President can raise the morale and confidence of the nation (and the world) and get us out of our funk. It is also unfortunate that value (houses, assets, corporations, etc.) is tied more to emotion than to anything tangible. One day a billion dollar corporation can be worth a billion dollars, the next it can be worth $100 million, not because anything changed within the company but because someone outside the company lost confidence and publicly stated it. That just seems wrong.

Posted 10/28/2008 5:16 AM by qnetx - recommend - reply

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If Democrats get the majority in the Senate watch out!  Your 401K will be taken over by the government, lose your tax deduction and get 3% on your money!  They (Democrats) can't wait to get their hands on your $$$$ and Yep, discussion is already under way in Congress about this very issue.

Nationalize your 401K... Socialism at its best.

Jack

Posted 10/28/2008 5:31 AM by uptonjb - recommend - reply

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@uptonjb - We already have a nationalized 401k. It is called Social Security. As for taking my 401k.... after the financial meltdown there is nothing left in it so I guess I will have to give them an I.O.U. 

Besides, "they", the people currently in power (Bush administration), have already spent my future earnings with the trillion they spent on Iraq and the trillion they are spending on the bailout. I don't care if the label is Republican or Democrat, they are both names for the same beast. It is an ugly beast.

On the bright side, once you have taken everything a man owns, they are no longer your slave, they are free again.

Posted 10/28/2008 5:46 AM by qnetx - recommend - reply

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Someone's been reading Revelation...
Posted 10/28/2008 6:18 AM by theojohns - recommend - reply

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@theojohns - Were you referring to my post?

Posted 10/28/2008 6:43 AM by qnetx - recommend - reply

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No, I was talking about Mr. Fong. And he may be right.
Posted 10/28/2008 6:56 AM by theojohns - recommend - reply


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"wow. too long bubba!"

Are you referring to Gary's diatribe or mine?
Posted 10/28/2008 7:24 AM by ncocon - recommend - reply

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Hi Gary,

Just thought people might enjoy these little clips that explain some finical terms. I know I did.

CDO: http://www.vimeo.com/1876936
Credit Default Swaps: http://www.vimeo.com/1915392
Credit Crisis: http://www.vimeo.com/1933993
Short Selling: http://www.vimeo.com/2040478
Posted 10/28/2008 8:17 AM by JacknJeannie - recommend - reply

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@uptonjb - 



"If Democrats get the majority in the Senate watch out!"

Your ill-informed scare tactics won't work this time. People have already seen what happens to the economy in Republican hands, and they are voting against it.

Sucks to be you.
Posted 10/28/2008 8:25 AM by fjblau - recommend - reply

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i'm still amazed that obama isn't mentioned. he was pushing for the bailout just as much as anyone. i'm not used to seeing you this biased gary. it's kinda weird.

since yesterday's post, and your doing the same thing, i've asked a lot of my obama friends who wanted the bailout to happen..."why did you want the bailout?" and invariably, in one form or another they all said "because i have faith in barrack and he wanted it".

i feel like i'm being ignored, but this is a pretty straightforward question: why the total lack of mention that along with the president, paulson and mccain....barrack was cheerleading for this thing just the same?

he just doesn't count? amazingly one-sided. very unfortunate.
Posted 10/28/2008 9:05 AM by shotshot - recommend - reply

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Your being ignored cause your right and they know it.
Posted 10/28/2008 9:26 AM by isawthelight2 - recommend - reply

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Let's make it clear. Democrats win. You Lose!  Go ahead and let the Fed take your $401K and give you $3% back on your money. If that's fine for you then go ahead and fold up your photography biz and go work for the State because that's who is gonna control you and your money.  You Control NUTHING!

OBAMA will re-engineer this country and you won't recognize it because your freedom and liberty will be gone.  Under his plan you want to make more than $250K... great... because he will take more than half of it. 

If you' re that blind, naive and stupid and Obama is your Messiah and Savior then by all means vote for him. You deserve everything he's gonna take away from you!  

I'd rather keep my Liberty than vote for a Socialist.

Jack

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I like how you claim that the bailout was terrible and you could have convinced congress not to vote for it, yet you have not offered any info on another possible solution or anything beside, the plan sucks. Let's hear some possible fong solutions.

And as far as bailing on anything us dollar based would that not include gold?

And why is the dollar increasing in value? The US is still the safest place to put your money. The US is still the largest consumer, and foreign companies need the US, China would be nothing without the US.

If we go into recession the world goes into recession.

As far as this third world status, you are just plain crazy. You need to spend less time studying the markets, which you are clearly not learning anything and spend some time with your wife. You should be enjoying yourself and your sucess.

Can't you find a hobby? Im sure you don't manage your own finances, and you have a team in place that manages your money, or for the love of god I hope you do

Posted 10/28/2008 10:26 AM by spencer402 - recommend - reply

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"I'd rather keep my Liberty than vote for a Socialist."

hahaha:

A few weeks before she was nominated for Vice-President, she [Sarah Palin] told a visiting journalist—Philip Gourevitch, of this magazine—that "we’re set up, unlike other states in the union, where it’s collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs."

You lose no matter what!
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@uptonjb - 


Amen, Amen, & Amen
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"I like how you claim that the bailout was terrible and you could have convinced congress not to vote for it, yet you have not offered any info on another possible solution or anything beside, the plan sucks. Let's hear some possible fong solutions.

And as far as bailing on anything us dollar based would that not include gold?

And why is the dollar increasing in value? The US is still the safest place to put your money. The US is still the largest consumer, and foreign companies need the US, China would be nothing without the US.

If we go into recession the world goes into recession."

So true.
Posted 10/28/2008 10:54 AM by isawthelight2 - recommend - reply

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@fjblau - Great find!

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A frikking  gain I will say the demo's created the mess with setting up low interest home loans for people that could not aford them and would not pass reform from Bush.  Gary you are using Bush as the cause because he is president right now. He paulson are not out to destroy America, your like MSNBC for Christ's sake.  LA times has a video tape of Obama and Ayres and  a party for a PLO consultant you gotta read this. How much more is it gonna take

 McCain is no messia by any means but Obama is NOT THE GUY PEOPLE Wake the FUCK UP!!! Look at who he spends his time with and what he does. Don't think just look at all the facts!!!  read this  http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZDFkMGE2MmM1M2Q5MmY0ZmExMzUxMWRhZGJmMTAyOGY=

Posted 10/28/2008 1:41 PM by ShooterSteve - recommend - reply

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Gary - your new world order without the US will be what? Are we to be peers with...say...Mexico? By the way - everything you are blaming Bush and Paulson for in dealing with this mess Obama has supported. He also went to Washington to deal with the mess.

It sounds like you are saying it simply doesn't matter who wins. Obama won't be able to spend like he wants cause we are broke and the problems are irreversable. Is this a matter of weeks...months...or years?

Best investments now rabbits for breeding survival gear and a gun. Eh Gary?

You also claimed hundreds of posts ago that while America would be no more (whatever that means) that the rest of the world would go on unscathed. Do you still believe that?

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"I will say the demo's created the mess with setting up low interest home loans for people that could not aford them and would not pass reform from Bush."

Which is a rightwing talking point and not a fact. You might want to look into the truth about the CRA program... and look at a calendar.

You know what? Never mind. You and your republican ilk are going DOWN in a week and I could care less if you are educated about the issues. The american people are aware of your malfeasance and are voting accordingly. Enjoy obsolescence. You and Ted Stevens.
Posted 10/28/2008 1:50 PM by fjblau - recommend - reply

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