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Monday, October 27, 2008

 700 billion dollar bailout - more opinions from me
You know, when Bush and Secretary Paulson jumped up and down and rushed the Senate and the House to "sign, sign, sign" the disastrous bill charging taxpayers with $700 billion dollars to "shore up the markets and avert a crisis" (you'll note that McCain 'suspended' his campaign to fly to Washington to make sure the bill got signed, at the same time I was jumping up and down giving you contact information on how to write your senators and congressional representative.
This man on the right ruined your future.  He did it with Bush's help, and McCain said that he'd be interested in keeping him on as Secretary of the Treasury.  The only comfort I have in getting rid of this crook is knowing that there's no way McCain can win this election. 

I was pleading for someone to have some reason around here.  I was trying to say, this is completely a bald-faced robbery of the taxpayer.  And the bill passed.  $700 billion dollars was originally proposed to buy up "toxic" debt from the banks.  But guess what, that didn't happen.  Now, your tax payers are being used to buy stock in Insurance companies, Bank stocks - not "toxic debt".  The problem with the bill is that it empowered Treasury Secretary Paulson to purchase ANYTHING he wants with your tax dollars at ANY PRICE.  And he's doing it.  He's helping all of his rich friends to get their stock values up - using taxpayer dollars.
Bush said the bill must get signed to avert a catastrophe.  A month prior, McCain said the economy was in good shape, then all off a sudden he needs to suspend his campaign to return to Washington and deal with this mess.  Well, look what is going on today now that the bill got signed!  No averting a catastrophe, banks still hoarding cash, markets crashing around the world, nearly a million U.S. jobs to be lost by the end of this year - it's SUCH BULLSHIT.


So now, many of the largest corporations are owned by the US government, and more are being bought up every day.  This is socialism, and what cracks me up is that Bush will have become the most socialist president in the history of the country.  And so many of you voted for him because that's exactly what you didn't want to happen.
Now countries around the world are "injecting capital" to kick start the economy, but all this will do is cause inflation.  If I made 10 million Lightspheres in one month, you can bet that the price of each one would go way down because the market would be flooded with them and the demand would be upside down.  When you have a lot of something, the value of each unit goes down.
China is already grumbling that the world's reserve currency should be something other than the USD.  That's going to happen at some point when China licks its wounds from having bought half of the US's entire debt.  The US is such a funny country... importing oil from the middle east (borrowing money at massive volumes) from the Chinese.  So it winds up being basically owned by foreign investors, and dependent on foreign countries just to operate.
Here's the danger of the dollar crashing - like i KNOW it will (I don't know the date, but it's coming).  If the dollar crashes, petroleum goes to 10x what it is now - gas at $40/gallon.  That shuts down heating/cooling, transportation.  Picture people on the streets making bonfires.  With a crashing dollar and no U.S. oil supply, the U.S. becomes one of the poorest third world countries.  I can't see how this is not going to happen.
COMMODITIES gas prices have gone down to recent lows.  So have many commodities.  Here is one thing about commodities that make them a great investment for the long-term view.  When prices go down, producers stop producing large volumes because there is so much on the market that can't be sold at a premium.  So they hold down production.  Miners slow down mining (or at least don't expand), oil refineries stop exotic means of extracting oil (deep drilling exploration, steaming out oil shale, etc).  This makes supply go down, and price for SURE goes up at some point.  Commodities, unlike hedge funds, are a zero-sum game.  There is always an owner for each item. 
I don't like to tell people what to do, but if I did like it, I would probably say something like - avoid any treasury instruments, any dollar-denominated assets - anything that has to do with the greenback, and hold long.  I would also say to look for devalued currencies in resource-rich countries, and as always, apportion for safety in the eventual collapse of the U.S. Dollar.  I was certain real estate was going to crash in 2005, I'm more certain of the USD crashing.

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Paulson is a Goldman Sachs New York Democrat.

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The main reason we are in this fix is because ACORN/Obama, The Clinton Admin, Democrats in Congress who pockets are lined with Freddie/Fannie dollars forced banks and mortgage lenders to accept higher risk subprime mortgages from individuals who had no business purchasing a house.  The house of cards literally have fallen in.

The collaspe of Fannie and Freddie makes ENRON look like Romper Room in comparison.   Harold Raines (current SR advisor to Obama) the former CEO of Fannie made multi multi Millions in a pay-package.

The Republincans in Congress including McCain tried to get a Bill passed that would have headed off much of this subprime problem but it was defeated by the Democrats even before it made it to the floor for a vote by the entire Senate or House

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I agree with you, this bailout sucks and American Taxpayers should not be stuck with the bill. Let the markets correct the problem. (As shown it does, markets have slid in spite of the Gov Bailout.

Jack

Posted 10/27/2008 8:06 AM by uptonjb - recommend - reply

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Gary can you be more specific as to which currencies you are looking at regarding "devalued currencies in resource-rich countries"?
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Perhaps you could post what you would do if you were in the same position as the "Average American home owner and wage earner" to help ensure economic safety to their family and perhaps bring some financial success regarding debt, discretionary income, etc.,...
Posted 10/27/2008 9:14 AM by CarolinaCommercial - recommend - reply

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"Paulson is a Goldman Sachs New York Democrat. "

Oops... Paulson is a Republican.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_Henry_Paulson_Democrat_or_Republican
Posted 10/27/2008 10:19 AM by fjblau - recommend - reply

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Gary, are you still hosting a forum on this subject elsewhere? If so, can you repeat the address so we can access it? Thanks.
Posted 10/27/2008 10:20 AM by garyfong2 - recommend - reply

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Right on the money Jack!  People Don't forget my post on the Bush admin trying to reform and prevent this 18 times. It was Bernack who said the funementals of the economy are strongm that is where McCain got it from. I am not that confidemt in Bernacke

Hyperinflation is comming  - Tell me why Gold is dropping so much?? Nothing makes sense.

Gary you bash Bush for democratic policy's that left holes open for Wall Street to take advantage of, those reforms were not passed due to Nanvy Pelosi. Do your research man.

Regardless start listening to Obama, he is radical, socialist/communist and said the economy works bottom up???  Ayers and Reverened Wright who married him?? I don't understand why so many people look the other way and equate McCain with Bush.

Posted 10/27/2008 10:56 AM by ShooterSteve - recommend - reply

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Paulson is a Democrat inspite of Wiki answer

Posted 10/27/2008 11:02 AM by uptonjb - recommend - reply

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I am perfectly happy to be corrected... do you have a source?
Posted 10/27/2008 11:17 AM by fjblau - recommend - reply

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Another link that identifies his party registration as Republican:

Henry Paulson

So if you have something that contradicts that (other than "Rush said so") I'm all ears.

You can also look up his campaign contributions... which are also decidedly Republican... though he does contribute to a fair number of environmental groups too.
Posted 10/27/2008 11:27 AM by fjblau - recommend - reply

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Don't forget that Pelosi and the House Democrats wanted this bailout
Posted 10/27/2008 11:28 AM by uptonjb - recommend - reply

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@uptonjb - Just shut up

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The dollar as safe haven, posted 102708 on Bloomberg:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a4eOuxv1IKV4

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Oooo another intelligent comment from a "brain dead " Democrat obviously! HA!

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And so did the Republicans. Your point?

And are you changing the subject about Paulson now?
Posted 10/27/2008 11:47 AM by fjblau - recommend - reply

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So did the democrats... what's yours?
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That the support (and the opposition) was bi-partisan.

And that Henry Paulson is a registered republican. :)
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@fjblau - He must be, since he knows he is wrong. I have heard people say Paulson has the "DNA" of a Democrat, even though he is a Republican. Must be because, aside from money, he is supposedly interested in the environment. http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/01/henry_paulson_t.php 

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His campaign contributions on the other hand... decidedly republican.

Ah well, you can't argue with stupid.

It is going to be a great week.

Frank
Posted 10/27/2008 12:21 PM by fjblau - recommend - reply

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Does it matter what Paulson "is" or "is not" OR does it matter more what Paulson does?  ..... and more importantly would any of you be able to stop Paulson from making the wrong decisions (whatever "wrong" means)? Or maybe help guide him to make the "right" decisions.  Or are you just going to whine about him?

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waiiiiiiiiiiiiit a second here. interesting how obama is 100% not mentioned as pushing for this bailout.

mccain obviously did: douchebag.
obama obviously did: douchebag.

why make this whole post about bush, paulson and mccain when obama was publicly as much for this bailout as anyone else. i still hate both candidates, but this is unusually partisan and lame as an accurate rep of how things went down.

c'mon gary. include yer' boi in your posts when he shares equal responsibility. that's dumb.
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Amen, way to go.
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You are doing a great job here, keep it up.
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dumb is all I can say, 

"I don't like to tell people what to do, but if I did like it, I would probably say something like - avoid any treasury instruments, any dollar-denominated assets - anything that has to do with the greenback, and hold long.  I would also say to look for devalued currencies in resource-rich countries, and as always, apportion for safety in the eventual collapse of the U.S. Dollar.  I was certain real estate was going to crash in 2005, I'm more certain of the USD crashing."

Ok so you are a big gold fan. Correct me if I am wrong, but is that not traded in US dollars?

Also if something cannot keep pace with inflation, what is the value of going long with it?

Opec just cut oil production and what happened? You got it prices continued to fall

The fed has injected trillions of dollars along with every other county in the world. The concern at this point is not inflation so there is no issue with that at this point in time. Interest rates are low and about to go lower, as soon as inflation becomes an issue they will start to withdrawl those funds as well as increase rates to keep inflation in check.

And your vague predictions are just stupid. Can you name one commodity that over time has been a good investment? One that has increased in value, over the amount of inflations for the "super long term"

Commidities are about the most volitale investment that you can make, they typically are done as a hedge, cattle producers hedge corn prices etc. They are not long term investments. That has to be the worst physical investment "advice" you could ever give anyone. Commodities are hedges against another investment. That is is, simple as that. Short term hedge, never invest in them alone

Just name one

Oh and the bailout package is just starting to kick in and short term lending rates are dropping and lending is starting to flow again.

Posted 10/27/2008 12:44 PM by spencer402 - recommend - reply

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I agree with you here except McCain is NOT a douchebag.
And I do like one of the candidates.
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Wow, you seem really smart.
Posted 10/27/2008 12:47 PM by isawthelight2 - recommend - reply

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