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Thursday, September 25, 2008

WASHINGTON MUTUAL COLLAPSED

 This is the largest bank failure in history - FDIC will need a bailout soon.
I would say bank deposits are risky at this point -
Next to go would be Wachovia - holy smokes WAMU gone.

Real Estate prices in California down 43% (nearly half) -
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Who introduced a bill back in 2005 to stop unqualified people from getting risky loans without scrutiny? McCain. Who defeated that bill? Democrats.

Obama's financial advisor? Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae's former CEO.

Obama's legislative and executive experience? Zilch. No major bills. Media scrutiny? Zilch. Years of his life not vetted nor examined. I don't think Sarah Palin's qualified to serve as Vice President, but I think she has more experience than Obama does. And Obama's running for President.

Okay, goodbye Mr. Political Expert and Judge of All Truth.
Posted 9/26/2008 12:53 AM by mu_shu_pork - recommend - reply

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"I don't think Sarah Palin's qualified to serve as Vice President, but I think she has more experience than Obama does. "

You keep using the word "experience" but I don't think you really know what it means.

Just because YOU haven't bothered to examine, vet, or scrutinize the MANY accomplishments of SENATOR Barack Obama, doesn't mean that he hasn't met that standard and more.

You're a hack. And a lazy one to boot.

Let's not even get into how misinformed you are about the economic reasons for this latest crisis and McCain's tacit complicity in the deregulation that is at the root of it.

You can kiss this election goodbye too.
Posted 9/26/2008 1:41 AM by fjblau - recommend - reply

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Well for you people still debating whether Obama or McCain actually matters as a 'free' choice. Dream on.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/25/us_army_bct_home_deployment/
Posted 9/26/2008 1:55 AM by med267 - recommend - reply

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JPMorgan got a sweet deal. They bought WaMu's assets for $1.9 billion but not its debt since the debt was wiped off the books by the intermediary that brokered the deal (the FDIC). JPMorgan wins, WAMU's customers win, the shareholders lost. I wonder if the government will start using that paper trick on more banks that run out of operating cash while waiting for the govt. bailout plan.
Posted 9/26/2008 5:21 AM by qnetx - recommend - reply

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It's a very intersesting time in financial hisory to say the least.   

Posted 9/26/2008 5:26 AM by sp500700 - recommend - reply

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Not a single penny was taken out of the FDIC for WAMU. For months, the FDIC has been monitoring WAMU and looking to broker a deal to sell it. They finally did that last night when the FDIC took control over WAMU and, at the same time, sold most of it to JPMorgan. In fact, the FDIC will RECEIVE $1.9 billion from JP Morgan.

Gary, I don't know what your motivation is with these posts. Your facts are often skewed and intentionally misrepresented.
Posted 9/26/2008 5:29 AM by Jay060 - recommend - reply

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"Real Estate prices in California down 43% (nearly half) "

That statement is taken slightly out of context since it doesn't specify the time period.  According to the C.A.R. report, the decline was 40.5% for August of 2008 vs. August of 2007. By the way, the same report also stated that sales increased 56.7%

It also depends on your perspective. If you look at real estate as a long term investment and take into account the longer cycles then the figure doesn't apply. The median price 10 years ago was $200,000 for homes in California.  So actually the statement  could also be written as "Real Estate prices in California up 75% in the last 10 years".

Gary, this headline style fodder that you employ is the kind of sensationalist media hype that drives a financial society based on emotion up and down. Congratulations for perpetuating the system.

Posted 9/26/2008 6:09 AM by qnetx - recommend - reply

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Gary, you know that housing prices in California were outrageously overpriced anyway. I know someone who bought a house in San Francisco that is smaller then my house and paid almost $1 million for it, my house is only valued at $185,000 here in West Virginia.
Posted 9/26/2008 6:21 AM by TimRayPhoto - recommend - reply

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With everything caving in around us Gary, you have still not said it....

So let me say it for you: You've been predicting and warning of this meltdown for years. You told us so...


Hytek
Posted 9/26/2008 6:25 AM by hytek_rednek - recommend - reply

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You know what I can't understand?  Most of you think you know it all but all you can do is come on a blog all day long and always be right.  If you guys are so good and so smart why aren't you in politics and running for office?
Posted 9/26/2008 7:08 AM by psween Xanga Premium Member - recommend - reply

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Maybe a meltdown is what we need, we ned to have "Value" in america we need go back to manufacturing and bring jobs back here. Rebuild. Keep in mind we can fail as a super power loosing credibility in out fight for democracy, Russia would love to see that. The UN is pushing for a Global econmony NOT GOOD. Why are we the best country in the world in such as short time? free enterprise, A lot of socialist things are being proposed with this bail out and things at getting strange.

Gary loves the blog attention and smiles by getting everyone all riled up to I am sure a lot of things are said for impact but stuffing money in your mattress when no one else can get any from the bank makes it worthless. Keep looking at gold though.

Posted 9/26/2008 7:09 AM by ShooterSteve - recommend - reply

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We are the best country in the world.  In our eyes.  The rest of the world hates us and is laughing at us right now.
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@ShooterSteve - 



You know what...I am a Democrat and I approve of your message..... with one caveat. The global economy is here....UN or not.
Posted 9/26/2008 8:02 AM by breezygiant01 - recommend - reply

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So I'm going to rewrite Gary's headlines to put a positive spin on things just to prove a point:

Gary's headline:

---------------------------- WASHINGTON MUTUAL COLLAPSED

This is the largest bank failure in history - FDIC will need a bailout soon.
I would say bank deposits are risky at this point -
Next to go would be Wachovia - holy smokes WAMU gone.

Real Estate prices in California down 43% (nearly half) -

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My Headline:

WASHINGTON MUTUAL ACQUIRED BY JP MORGAN

One of the largest banks in U.S. was acquired and FDIC makes $1.9 Billion on deal.

Bank deposits are not at risk to customers at this point -
Will Wachovia be a future buyer or seller of banks - holy smokes opportunities abound!

Real Estate prices in California up 75% in last ten years -

Posted 9/26/2008 8:43 AM by qnetx - recommend - reply

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well said, positive turns are always the best...gives others insight to the good and the bad of even one thing.
Posted 9/26/2008 9:06 AM by Anonymous - recommend - reply

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@qnetx - 

A great way to look at this situation!
Posted 9/26/2008 9:51 AM by TimRayPhoto - recommend - reply

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"Gary, you know that housing prices in California were outrageously overpriced anyway. I know someone who bought a house in San Francisco that is smaller then my house and paid almost $1 million for it, my house is only valued at $185,000 here in West Virginia."

hahahhaha

That couldn't possibly because California is a far more desirable place to live now, could it?

If you believe in the laws of supply and demand, that is.
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@fjblau - 

Are you saying that California only became a more desirable location the last ten years? The reason housing prices went up is because people were given loans that they wouldn't have qualified for in the past, mostly due to Bill Clinton's changes to the community reinvestment act. When you give loans to many more people who wouldn't have qualified in the past, then you create more demand which is what caused the housing prices to go up so fast. The changes to the community reinvestment act were made in 1999, and after that the home prices in California went up 75%.

If you believe in the laws of supply and demand, then tell me how we could lower the price of gasoline? Let's not forget that fuel prices have also contributed to the current crisis. My wife and I spend about $200 more per month on gasoline then we did 2 years ago, and we have our business in our home.
Posted 9/26/2008 10:16 AM by TimRayPhoto - recommend - reply

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Good grief, what (and where) are you driving?
Posted 9/26/2008 10:25 AM by fjblau - recommend - reply


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@fjblau - clearly they are driving their magical bus to heaven!

Posted 9/26/2008 10:38 AM by jacksonwholephoto - recommend - reply

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"clearly they are driving their magical bus to heaven!"

Closer to heaven... closer to the Sun... Solar power... it all makes sense now.
Posted 9/26/2008 10:45 AM by fjblau - recommend - reply

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We drive a 2007 Honda Accord. We drive over 30,000 miles per year both for our business and our own personal use.
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My point was that the demand artificially increased in the housing market, due to more people qualifying for loans because of the 1999 changes to the Community Reinvestment Act. The problem is that it became the proverbial house of cards, because many people were getting low interest loans that didn't have the means to pay them back. Now we are witnessing the consequences of the social engineering of our banking system. The problem wasn't lack of regulation, but rather regulation that required banks to make risky loans to low income home buyers.
Posted 9/26/2008 11:00 AM by TimRayPhoto - recommend - reply

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@TimRayPhoto - 

Gasoline is a prime example of supply and demand. The OPEC members control the supply and constantly strive to balance it so that they can derive the highest price without causing too much pain on their customers. They pushed the edge a few months ago and the U.S. consumers tightened up, thus dropping the demand. Once the demand dropped, OPEC dropped the price.

So the bottom line is to reduce the demand on petroleum, that would drop the prices. However, with large industrially emerging nations such as India and China, the demand for oil is rising at a pace that may not drop enough no matter how much we conserve in the U.S. But if we in the U.S. find alternative energy sources we can be less dependent on the oil "drug" and also become less dependent on large foreign nations and oil cartels.

Posted 9/26/2008 11:16 AM by qnetx - recommend - reply

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