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Monday, September 24, 2007

 BY THE VERY NATURE OF HUMAN BEINGS, MANY WILL NOT BUY GOLD UNTIL EVERYBODY IS BUYING GOLD AND BY THEN IT WILL BE VERY EXPENSIVE

It's true.  People usually invest in things only when everybody else has collected large profits and it has hit the news.  Someday soon, gold will be at a price boom that everybody will be talking about.  And then, maybe then, people will really start buying it.
I have a friend who bought a hundred grand worth of gold way back when I was talking about it when it was about $425/oz.  I'll let you look at the charts yourself and see what kind of return you would've gotten... but here's the thing - the idea is to invest and never sell.
I know it sounds weird - but someone taught me to invest what you don't need to spend (which makes you really think twice about what you spend) and then put your money in places where you can't easily get to it.
I used to teach a course about this topic.  And one thing that doesn't make sense immediately is why I would say - do not pay your credit cards off first.  Save first, and then one day write a big whopping check to wipe out the whole balance.  The reason is that if you pay down the card - it is way too tempting to crank it up again.  Making your investments hard to liquidate is the key to investing because the key to investing is LONG TERM.
This sounds boring to some of you, but the smallest action of buying maybe a 1oz coin or bar every month if you can afford to (getting hard to do this now, because of how expensive they're getting!) but let me challenge you with this thought.  The moment you start investing diligently and earnestly is when you become rich.  Why is that?  Because rich people invest, and the inverse is also true.  If you invest, you're rich.
My friends Amy and Janey were all set to buy a gold coin each on State Street one day, but they were worried - what if it goes down in value? (Real Estate will for sure go down, and still there are deals being made to my amazement).  Or here's an adorable question... Amy said, "where should I put it?"  I said, "put it on the hood of your car, I don't know!"
We were having this discussion when gold was $475/oz.  Their investment would've gone up nearly double by now, but time passes.
Should I do a video tomorrow of me buying a coin so y'all know what to do when you walk in a coin store?
 Posted 9/24/2007 10:09 PM - 1799 Views - 34 eProps - 21 comments

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no.... you don't invest and never sell... that is dumb! INVEST IN GOLD. SELL IT LATER WHEN IT'S WORTH MORE. THEN BUY SOMETHING REALLY COOL!!!!

(honey you are so boring!!! who wants a bunch of gold sitting around forever? dumb)

love you
Posted 9/24/2007 10:43 PM by missycarl - recommend - reply

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I love you baby. Gold is really pretty. When you whack someone on the cheek with a gold bar it glistens in the light :)
Posted 9/24/2007 10:50 PM by garyfong1 Xanga True Member Xanga Lifetime Member - recommend - reply

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"Ya'll".... I thought you were a southerner for a moment, but then I remembered it's really "Y'all". Thought you could fool us?
Posted 9/25/2007 12:14 AM by princessofluck - recommend - reply

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That would be neat Gary.....I would like to see that video.
Posted 9/25/2007 12:21 AM by nvcec - recommend - reply

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Gary....

Tell me your thoughts about silver....for some of us smaller investors.  It may not be a wise investment....what is your opinion.

Thanks ...George

Posted 9/25/2007 4:21 AM by George812 - recommend - reply

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This is an interesting perspective on reasons for purchasing gold. The author, a proponent of owning gold, says not to buy it for investment purposes. It's a good read.
Don't buy gold as an investment
Not sure if I agree with him considering that one can buy and sell gold like a stock now.
Posted 9/25/2007 6:17 AM by theojohns - recommend - reply

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It's already expensive.  Why buy it now?  Wouldn't now be a good time to sell?  (e.g. if Amy and Janey bought at $475...they'd be able to sell at a nice profit now.) 

Dave Ramsey says gold is not a good investment -- click here.  He points out that author Jeremy Siegel (author of Stocks for the Long Run) did a chart of investments over the past 200+ years...

A $1 investment in bonds in 1801 would be worth $13,975 today.

A $1 investment in stocks in 1801 would be worth $8.8 million today.

A $1 investement in gold in 1801 would be worth $14 today.

Are Dave and Jeremy wrong about investing in gold?

Posted 9/25/2007 7:04 AM by bluesky93 Xanga True Member - recommend - reply

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I'm with you Dan.....  I have four gold coins if anyone is interested....   details upon inquiry :)
Posted 9/25/2007 8:37 AM by turtle_pond - recommend - reply

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I like the topic; I just don't have the funds to invest right now.  I wish I did though.  Gary always seems to be up on these kind of topics.
Posted 9/25/2007 9:24 AM by ambiancestudios Xanga Lifetime Member - recommend - reply

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i like missy's reasoning...b/c that's what i'm going to do! :o)

put up a video...i don't even know where i would buy a gold coin--you think walmart has some? (lol)
Posted 9/25/2007 10:53 AM by Heather_Woods - recommend - reply

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Yes! I would like to know where I can buy gold coins and what to do/say. You said buy South African krugerrands from a previous post, right? And if/when I want to sell, will they buy it at the "current" price or with a huge discount like how baseball card collectors never pay the "becket" price.
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OH MY GOSH DTR who are you??? I'm laughing my ass off reading your blog it's HILARIOUS
Posted 9/25/2007 1:50 PM by garyfong1 Xanga True Member Xanga Lifetime Member - recommend - reply

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Hey DTR -- how much is my 1977 Topps Kurt Bevacqua worth?    Keep in mind he was the 1975 Joe Garagiola / Bazooka bubble gum blowing champion!!
Posted 9/25/2007 2:29 PM by bluesky93 Xanga True Member - recommend - reply

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How about I just buy 10 bottles of Goldschläger???
Filter out the "GOLD" and still get a very good reason why to drink!?!

GoldGoldschläger is a Swiss cinnamon schnapps (43.5%), a clear liqueur with very thin yet visible flakes of gold floating in it. The actual amount of gold is extremely small and serves as a sort of novelty.

An urban legend associated with this drink is that the gold flakes cause small incisions in one's esophagus, therefore allowing the alcohol to enter one's bloodstream faster. While that has not been verified, Goldschläger was, a few years after its introduction, reformulated to contain less gold, possibly due to some individuals suffering allergic reactions. The human body is not able to digest heavy metals[1]

Goldschläger is a product of Italy. It contains 43.5% alcohol by volume (87 proof). The previously noted urban legend is likely the result of a misdirected comparison between the perceived level of inebriation one has after drinking Goldschläger versus another spirit. Such a comparison would be misdirected if the spirit in question was 80 proof as many are because Goldschläger is 87 proof.

There is currently less than a tenth of a gram (0.1 g) of gold flakes in a 750 mL bottle of Goldschläger, which amounts to less than $2.22 on the international gold market.

Source(s):
Wikipedia"
Posted 9/26/2007 3:21 AM by NUYOKA_AND_CO - recommend - reply

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HOW ABOUT BUYING GOLD JEWLERY?
Waiting on that video you promised us...
Posted 9/26/2007 4:35 AM by NUYOKA_AND_CO - recommend - reply

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Buying gold now is like buying Real Estate 2 years ago or dot com in 1999. It's a peak - gold does have it's ups and downs. It was $800 30 or so years ago - if you bought then you would have zero return and even a loss as your "investment" eroded with inflation. Canada is the largest oil producer in the world. If you own one of these oil companies (PVX, PGH, PWI, PWE) they pay a 15% dividend paid out monthly. You're better off putting your money under the mattress instead of buying gold. Oil is the future, not gold, as the US and China scramble to insure supply.
Posted 9/26/2007 4:39 AM by tomgle - recommend - reply

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A long time friend, who's family is in banking, tells me that it's very difficult for Gold to get much higher than $750/oz. When it does, small gold production facilities become profitable at that price so they begin production, causing the supply to go up and the price to level off. My friend is a metallurgist by trade and therefore familiar with that business.

Furthermore he tells me that the ratio of Gold to Silver in the earth has always been 20 to 1. Hence the reason a one ounce gold coin was a $20 denomination and twenty silver dollars was the equivalent value. At current prices, Gold is riding at 54 to 1 relative to silver. So truly Gold is 2.7x the value it should be due to speculation by investors that the price will rise even more.

For those who don't need to protect as much wealth and don't mind the coins being slightly less portable, can buy junk silver US coins by the bag. This represents a real savings and can be split among friends that would like to purchase with you. The coins are easily recognizable although they are heavily worn. They are great for making small purchases in an economic collapse of a currency, although be advised, they will be worth much more than face value. Todays dollar is worth about four solid (pre 1982) copper pennies. So a silver dime is worth today about $2.50 by my calculations. Be advised that silver prices can be volatile because there is more of it. The price cannot be manipulated as easily as gold prices can.

William Jennings Bryan a former candidate for president many years before I was born, gave a famous “Cross of Gold” speech. He was warning how the super-rich would try to manipulate the price of Gold and crucify mankind on a cross of gold. Amazing how little humans change through the centuries. William Still is a noted historian that appears from time to time on the History Channel. He published a book called "On the Horns of the Beast." It's a small but great history book on money and how the High Priests of global finance have affected the course of humanity. Ever wonder why Hannibal withdrew from the Italy after crossing the Alps and defeating the Roman armies? He had them on the ropes but let the Romans off the hook and withdrew to Carthage in North Africa. The Romans finally recovered and destroyed Carthage completely thus changing the course of history. Bill Still's book gives you that answer and many more.

Charles

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Posted 9/26/2007 6:28 AM by hytek_rednek - recommend - reply

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Yes, a video please!
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So I had an interesting question come my way..

I think someone mentioned it in here as well

If someone has a ton of gold jewelry isnt that considered an investment?

Posted 9/26/2007 11:25 AM by sandyanton Xanga Lifetime Member - recommend - reply

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video please.... I feel like a retard every time I walk into a coin shop...

also, how do you know the going rate so you don't get over charged?
Posted 9/26/2007 12:33 PM by TimHalberg Xanga Lifetime Member - recommend - reply

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If you never sell your gold, it can be melted down and used to make your coffin when you die. Otherwise, you can just be buried with it as is. Though I wonder if the IRS will come dig you up to get their share after you are gone.

Posted 10/1/2007 8:29 AM by qnetx - recommend - reply


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